" Part of all this at the college level obviously is recruiting had a lot of success on that. Is recruiting something you enjoy. Well sure yeah I had it. And it's funny and -- that pushed open the people who elected and almost can't relate to that question is that don't understand. They're recruiting is building your football team it's -- you're going on finding guys in the Pistons. So. Is that it chores that something you don't want to know why would you not like that meant to me it's it's. There always constant. They come live this this -- that really have fun doing. You obviously have talked about competition slot never comes -- plot is how you he recruiting do you get competitive absolutely. Evidence to me everything's under them competing to do and it's going to be rated. You know and that's exactly hosted that's exactly -- it and then -- That's what gives you given me a real clarity about how I operate now I didn't recruiting news news competition. You know teaching me compete to teach really well because -- see learners learn about. You compete to. To motivate and inspire them to do academics stay on track and everything to -- this is a competition that's why this is such a clear. Pathway from me in vehicle communities in my coach and so. It is encompasses everything humans to -- the clipboard came on -- at. You'd be surprised though that I'm an amendment that ticket an opportunity about competition. -- competition people would think in the they kind of generalized that. We need to be really competitive is not a good thing to be highly competitive is not a good thing wealth I think if you if you can't. Understand that the the essence of what competition is all about and it's only to stick you know somebody's nose in the dirt and beat him. Then that's not what it's all about me competitions is fine how. How much you have inside of yourself. It's to realize your potential if it's without. And without competition we can't find who we really are and so in that those that make is compete at the highest level of the people -- the most important to us so our opponents. Are people that we don't like in the disregard and we just what we think the world of these guys and give us a chance to show the world about and that's that's the mentality that our guys are taught. On -- practice field. The the hardest Sedrick Ellis in me trying to work the better he gets and the more he realizes his potential how can you not. How do you think badly or down on somebody that that allows you that -- that experience so. It's not just about the win part of it's about you know self awareness and self growth and an election -- And starting understand a little bit how you're able news stockpile so much talent some of these positions of these kinds of things that you say when you going to the home. It's that you can you won't understand that emotion in the should take a look at the people coming in and the guys that are coming you know they're going to play. They know that nobody can keep them from playing way back when when I first came to this program I had to figure out what was what was what was that to -- yes he's so special. And I came to that conclusion that it was unique. People that had me this program that -- that the cardinal and gold in the brick buildings in the field at the coliseum. It was a unique people with a decided to play on this stage. In bring what they had to offer to this university and I needed to go out and find those kinds of guys is best they could as many as possible. And we yours -- that's what we're looking for -- in the extraordinary competitive guys with great will guys that no definitive that in itself. And this they have to battle for you competitions talked about all the time and could wield that with a little promise anybody anything at all. Except we have a philosophy. That calls for our young guys to play right now. We've that's how we think that's how we talk that's how we expect and that's how we act that's how we do it everybody in this program and thrown the differences again here it comes from the heart. When guys know they want to be part of this program that's when things and only a Trojan. And then when therein -- for that isn't about well I stack everything appear very few guys doing in that manner that's way more emotional that. Did Matt Cassel situation at all helped you in recruiting and I can going to somebody's home and say you don't even have to necessarily play here and we can still pitching to the and a that and not thinking about. What happens five years and they like to know that you don't think they are. They know they'd they'd like that they know that that's something that happened that -- of the Atlantic. These kids are eighteen years old they've from the time they're thirteen to support this -- think about. College football and they're they didn't in the dream about the NFL this is what's right in front of them. If people focus on something like that that's so far ahead of them ever achieved. -- within -- to focus on the I would never succumb to be a backup so that you can play in the NFL -- because complex."