" Winners don't Rose showed you how to make money general manager -- support Joe. A regular contributor on. -- MSNBC. Sports team. Brings over 25 years of handicapping experience to the table. We're creating these are. You're number one source for winners."

" Underdogs fair thirteenth last week and a cub only 86 versus the spread. Home dogs going point 28 yes that's after the Sabres were combined 21 and nine and -- and we read in four. I've won I'm out the mark with me -- good. And together will be joining you every Sunday the football season -- our pregame show as we point down key games from a gambling perspective. Today we got four games we're going to ask the about the Oakland Seattle Arizona the Jets Buffalo and Chicago Atlanta. -- also gonna give you our thoughts and betting strategies regarding the purchasing a a camp points depending on the line. And when and -- used to be playing favorites and underdogs. Now lastly I mentioned one of the most -- and trends I've seen in my 25 years especially handicap or and that's how the straight up winner of -- team. Has been a phenomenal -- lost mega season and that -- form -- gambling week as the teams at once straight up. 111 and three versus the oddsmakers the year to date. There's sixty form twelve against the spread and it include the pre season guys that record is a 120 wins. Seventeen losses and four pushes and that is all against the spread. I mean we we took note of how. Parity. Really isn't happening in the NFL this year they're the good -- the bad and there's not much in between. -- another trend I wanted to get your take on and as -- book maker as the guy who created the created the offshore sports book betting industry. I'm double digit underdogs. The past three seasons combined 6843. And four again spread twenty and 108 a year ago. This season no different or. Two went eight for oddsmakers. Do you think. The hand and had not in the NFL you think that is also contributing to match ran."

" I think what's happening is with all these double digit. Point read is that the players aren't biting. They're not -- the point they're taking the point you have the bookmakers who just don't need to increase those lines. A week in and week out these double digit favorite continue to cover the line. And yet the players aren't jumping on handling the number so why give up players haven't seen one LA fourteen. You know one of them I would -- fourteen no reason in the extra three point they're not doing -- gained today. The eagles' fourteen -- or haven't you because last week people didn't leave the point with the Eagles they took the points. And you think as the season progressed I always say that the lines get much sharper. He's in regret that you think is also factors in the equation I do but I don't think the players all oh come around and I think as the players because -- have to remember. The bookmakers when they -- the line it's not accurately depict the final score. If that depict what the pro action by the players of upon -- the players catch up and -- in these big numbers. While the big numbers are prize."

" That's probably I think the big risk -- exception. That gamblers have been out there when I hope someone so it seven point better than silence -- not the case that the betting line to get equal action on both sides of the fence. Okay now as we pick up with number six of the season the favorites in joint slight edge in Vega 4136. -- red. Home teams also six games over 500. Put up 41 and 35 spread mark and first game we're gonna break down today the Philadelphia Oakland contest. Eagles -- big double digit favorite in this one of course they killed at Tampa Bay Buccaneers 3314 -- by a week ago. Donovan McNabb returning with a fine performance after missed a couple of games but that's fractured -- sixteen for 21 to 64 yards three touchdowns. The Raiders work we I mean they went to New York took on the Giants got hammered 44 to seven a game they give up -- 83 yards your take on the game."

" Looked more look at this game the more look like the Harlem Globetrotters against the Washington I mean -- the Eagles are better. At every single position like he's dead or New York last night last week. -- Couple Philadelphia there's three quarterback beat. They don't have back up what are they gonna do bring in -- the murderer I think gonna bring him bit -- right all over them -- in. The Eagles will we know they're good -- its bullying and beating up it means what he did in a box last week what these people -- be a few weeks ago. They don't let these bad these greens I think fourteen point the bookmakers and that and not you know I don't think it is I think you'll leave the fourteen year legal Eagles."

" we delayed the big points with them here on this show and they obviously delivered. I -- in the problem with the Raiders have no -- that they -- the first team since 1960. That is being -- two -- total yards in four straight games back it only averaged under 48 yards in their last four JaMarcus Russell joke at quarterback eight for thirteen hundred yards total against New York last week sacked six times by the Giants terms of AT trends. The Eagles on thirteen and 58 run on the road 983 of their last twelve overall. My only problem here with the Eagles on word of caution is the ground game and nonexistent on them now are leading rusher last -- against the Buccaneers with thirty yards on the ground. Brian Westbrook and a strong McCoy. Twelve carries for 32 yards in the wildcat offense working but I agree I think the only way to play this game you gotta play the -- with Philadelphia. Might need that week in the -- an hour. Later it's got to take up and start working form now and next up we're gonna take a look at the Atlanta Chicago game. At last week's show of course. I took the Falcons against Sampras as though you were in love with the 49ers -- put -- there and who won that game 45 to ten Atlanta guys is the road dog. By the time Atlanta is back at home against Chicago mind for now when my -- involving the Falcons this season now last year when these two met. Chicago had believe they used to -- kick in the final minute to play Matt Bryant hit a long pass boom. Final play of the game. The Falcons and forty yard field goal and one at 22 to twenty. Now what I took out of and niners game for the first time this season Michael Turner finally got the ground game going. Big performance for and 22 carries and 97 arts 477. Total yards for the Falcons in this enacting the niners they covered seven out of ten with Mike -- at home. -- you like."

" We'll look at last week out eight again Matt Ryan is nothing short of we -- look. He is among the only quarterback in the league -- in. The effort -- last week a team that I thought would rise for the occasion amply that I think he and that and look every autumn -- Happen he lit up like a Christmas tree so for me I think that there is this week. The Bears they're coming in with Jay Cutler he's had gone linger you know immediately that he meant is not really that good. Cutler comes in with a improve -- wide receivers and I think he's going to be able to exploit that -- and I'm gonna look for this game could be very very well. Possibly come down to the last play of the game and because of that I think you should buy the hook. Hate the three and a half point and goal at the -- I say -- on the hook. And you go any ticket winning in this one guys we're gonna take a short break one we're returns Stephen -- will be giving marred by some one its -- the body can't point. Come -- it's the right time defensive backs."

" He booed me here president me. -- the largest -- bomber in the world wanna take active talk about my favorite town in any Las Vegas a work -- and I need. I've played in my entire life I guess you can say. I know that out like the back of my hand for me. There's only 10 Al truly captures the last may at him like no other and that he's. All new golden nugget hotel look at you know in world famous downtown not -- For those of you overrated bit there you know exactly what -- those of you haven't they might work it it brilliant experienced. All new golden nugget hotel Las Vegas -- just haven't done -- was meant to be done now here's the good news. Every thirty days -- site we're gonna elect one lucky winner and give him a three VIP weekend all expense paid. At the golden nugget that includes VIP -- back and forth from the airport. VIP checked in no standing on line. And I high -- week that'll knock your socks all will also go to throwing VIP seating at the amazing. Gordy brown show. No he no credit card and no registration. Entered a contest just go to our site click on the link that as VIP weekend getaway. And your email address and -- your information there September when there's already been -- we announced that already. And the October winner -- and -- on November 1. So -- every VIP weekend and the liberal arts at the golden nugget -- Allah may."

" I out of market your general manager nick nascent dot com and I've got a -- opera that's good today only. Listen you can get the plays of all. Whitney handicap or are today and a Al action for RE. Simply by sending an email to techniques and our customer service night on the web site that's what you can get the -- and handicap -- up O'Brien. In jolt I repeat Angela came McNeill and currently not in all their play from all handicap -- today. For -- if you simply go to picnics and dot com click on the customer service like and send us an email what will happen is it we won't match. Our customer service department Wilbon and you an email with the passcodes that will get you all looked at a place from those sticks in the campers that -- act for. Pork -- no strings attached guys. It's a one -- only special take advantage of it do not that way and that email our customer service like right now at picnic in. Dot com."

" This departed show we'd like to talk about gambling strategies more specifically. Steve of course takes a look at everything from -- maker perspective I take a look at it from gambling handicapping perspective. And often we meet in the middle one of the things I think is most important I don't think a lot of players out there under Ian is the important the value of buying up. Or buying down hit point in the game now from a bookmakers perspective. What did you find that players did and made no sense in me."

" the eight players made. Is made by honor off -- point they figure seven point cut down. That's the most likely scoring you know that that's got to happen all let me move people have been good at the end I don't want them to court and beat me tree. No game plan on avid so -- is that terrible point that I all brought up great for the book maker that's why we operate. Now that's interesting now and kept him active I believe there's only three numbers -- you -- on all three war and Evan. Personally I think a lot of teams and -- on seven match the way it is three goes about things because a field goal. For about a number that I safe for people go. To me that is a huge number because ever and day out rock act the two point conversion attempt. You even more 28 point 4211714. And being more of those type of finals and do gains ending in three or teams and most people don't know more gains and -- in Korea another game another point spread of people like the -- on all which is good. Because people don't realize. Is that very lightly score on the right especially in many times. I mean in garbage time you know they're buried. But they're trying to make -- aborted comeback it. Some settled for the field goal and the -- touchdown and the last drive and get the meaningless and boom right there on the ten number. But I think the big mistake at least from my perspective that some players make is. Eight arbitrarily. By point points on ridiculous numbers memories."

" I mean what are you doing buying up points on fourteen point spread or seventeen points right. If they can't win by fourteen they're not gonna win by fifteen not fourteen and not thirteen inning it's a blowout or not think even ten. I'm a little leery. If it's a home favorite you're lined ten points I'd probably want the body -- if the road favorite ten points. I could go at him by the appoint upper banner Tanzania depending with BK is and I think another thing as a lot of guys in -- so quick the bike down. But they often don't buy up what I mean what gets you people and I got some time just as important especially on the block --"

" Scared of the favorite. That might be a good time to consider betting that dog another thing that people don't realize -- bank roll. Bankroll has a very big part of playing in this when you're sitting pretty and you're up huge in your bank roll. The time you wanna use the power of money. And buy your extra half point a lot other that that people don't realize is all the gains that were three or three and half point favorite here. Only twenty feet or less than that. Came -- actually three at three point finals all the games that were 33 and half point favorite. It is really end with three of three and a half point I know last year."

" And the NFL and college football I bought operable and can't point no matter the price of the game originally. 21 times -- went fifteen point six witness at point ops are now. Who cares that I paid a dollar when he is opposed to a dollar and while that you don't pay anything when you win taught -- a -- on the six that I lost I mean that just shows you. But once against sometimes I think people they look at in the worried about what she's a fight lose it's gonna cost me more. Well if you lost its cost me a lot anyway why not at least. Movement's shift the odds in your paper and -- back to that we talked about earlier in the show where this year most teams that win out right -- Exactly you know another thing -- very important when it comes to this buying up from behind him at point is the value shopping around. I'm not only in Vegas where. I mean we can sit there on the strip and Albert tilting you'll find one price you can walk across street and you find something new you can find. Those half points and where you shop now not to be and thank -- my hat to guys Joe blow around the corner. If you're playing off shore there are certain sports book that we know big name places. That always always -- can't point to one point war on the paper what he's guy if -- an underdog I know war on the to be playing that game."

" Take at least if you're in -- take a walk around the strip gold downtown. What everybody hats off or if you're not big. While we got that line there on our night. Very important and we have a line there but that doesn't have a -- took off -- play on it but. But I played that you're into play that you're actually up customer up so -- you see different lines at different places it's a call to action you can you can leave that to -- It definitely agree with out buying an -- point and pain yet."

" Would you choose. Big advantage and of course the last and -- have to really passes the importance of -- you play the favorite and one inflating undergo. I had never understood why players and I heard this -- many times in 25 years. They're betting favorite and they wait. -- got guys look -- natural inclination of gamblers handicap present it as well. He'll always gravitate toward the favorite while the betting public is doing the exact same thing. They were are only going to increase in price you get closer to kick off. If you like that -- on Friday don't wait till Sunday and if you like -- on Sunday morning don't wait till Sunday at 1225. To bet on that 1 o'clock eastern time pick up. Get in a rolling now. If you're on the lead dog that's different story because there you're gonna probably get the benefit of the -- and you're probably not gonna have to find that extra point."

" Dogs are only going up as the week goes on and you know case in point few weeks back we get Carolina -- on Friday to my customers for Sunday. On Friday he was 33 and a half when irony Carolina washing correct told everybody to bite down that rate. Everybody -- needed -- needed they waited to undo by the play it would too busy Friday and Saturday dealing with Friday's Saturday's play they come Sunday the game five. And four and -- half. -- difference between winning thirty dimes and perfect."

" Exactly -- lot of things to consider but most importantly don't be leery of buying off or on. That can't point depending what the number is again I think the numbers are 347. You're not a big and a seven from bookmakers perspective what you believed tent. Is a very important numbers well I think that's a good number when you're dealing with the road favorite home favorite I'm not a big fan of that. And if you're lying you know 1417. Whatever and your thinking about buying appointee should be gambling in the first place at my jumper by. A look at. Let's and we got two more games to break down at tires on and the Jets bills and get both of them right -- From where."

" He booed me here president CEO the largest -- bomber in the world. Wanna take active talk about my favorite. In any Las Vegas a work -- and I need. I've played in my entire life I guess you can say I know that -- like the back of my hand. For me there's only 10 Al that truly captures the last -- at him like no other and that is. All new. Golden nugget hotel look at you know in world famous downtown not may. Those of you already been there you know exactly what are those of you haven't they might work it W that period. All new golden nugget hotel Las Vegas. Just haven't done -- like it was meant to be done now he has the good news. Every thirty days our -- we're gonna select one lucky winner and give him a three VIP weekend all expense paid. -- That includes VIP -- back and forth from the airport. VIP jacket and no standing on line and I high roller week that'll knock your -- all. Well and throwing VIP seating -- the amazing. Gordy brown show. No he no credit car and no registration. Enter a contest just go to our site. Click on the link that the IP we didn't give away. At your email address and it your information there September winner has already been chosen we announced a variety. And the October winner we're gonna announced on November 1. So get -- IP weekend and -- large at the golden nugget -- Allah may."

" I -- the market your general manager pick nascent dot com and I've got a best soap opera that's good today only. Listen you can get the plays of all. It nation handicapped or are today and -- Al action. -- Simply by sending an email to picnic and our customer service link on the web site that's what you can get the place and -- up O'Bryant. Act in jolt I repeat Angela. Amy -- and Charlie Sutton all of our plays from all handicap purse today. For Corey if you simply go to picnics and dot com click on the customer service like and and -- an email what will happen is it we won't match. Our customer service department and -- email with -- a pass -- that will get you all the eighth place from those six handicap purse but a knee expert. For -- no strings attached guys -- a one -- only special take advantage of it. Do not that way and that email our customer service like right now at picnic. Dot --"

" Next up on the --"

" NFC west showdown between Seattle and Arizona sea Hawks like favored in the where they snapped a three game losing streak last week in Jacksonville 41 nothing."

" Matt Hasselbeck returned."

" Arizona holding on blowing a big lead. Then coming back and beating Houston at home which -- going in the one."

" While half -- back was very impressed apparently we would -- nothing in the -- Jaguars but the thing here is. Is that was party to beat Kurt Warner come back the warm you know they had a rough -- that Super Bowl team come back I think. At a Arizona is -- of him out at everybody else that they are in fact he seemed to click here. Becomes a must win them all I look or Arizona a year to -- right."

" I'll say I think Arizona was just a one year wonder and to rally team last year. Caught fire at the right time second half of the season had an incredible run through the playoffs I just don't think they're real. And I think they have much of the defense offensively and on the can run the ball really the -- show or nothing at all. You know Matt Hasselbeck last week he really showed you how important that Seahawks team to -- 41 yards. Fort touchdown pass as he just like Donovan McNabb was all of returning after missing a few games as a broken -- I'm in at nine total yards in nineteen only -- 190 ninth for Jackson on the granite. Jaguars did have to travel cross country like you said in Jacksonville not very -- looking right I will grant you that but what worries me about Arizona. They were up 21 nothing at home against Houston he would think. You're fine -- you're gonna go for the killer instinct but that was not the case guys it was suddenly tied 2121. Oddly even net gain and you'll look at the way Arizona played at 181 downs in the first quarter again one. 11 not to 11 down in the second half they were out gained in the second up by Houston. 286 yards 43 so might look at the way they poll date at home. Now you can say they got the big lead and then Nate. Sat on -- perhaps but that assessment and have the killer instinct but the -- with -- how about when he is healthy they do happen and that's why like cattle out."

" Had a tough time or stopping you know Kurt Warner had his way with -- they got very small back -- young Arizona got very big back there -- very big receivers their experience. I really the type of thing where Kurt Warner comes out of the end of the game. And how to -- at the end. Now I'm you know we just talked about when it's prudent about it -- point. I'm sure with the mind having righted the rate your advice plus five by the point absolutely my advice capsule you by downing a point -- to winning at ease as -- take the three and -- Okay the last game we're gonna be taking a look at here is going to be the New York Jets team."

" Against Buffalo. How well we watched the New York Jets we both were on the New York Jets last Monday night we had nothing nice about. Rex Ryan's defense of that squad there I mean totally collapse could not handle the wildcat offense at all. Amazing how that fourth quarter erupted with the Dolphins came with three touchdowns it was like. The Dolphins knew exactly what the Jets were gonna do on defense before they took the field in the fourth quarter they had their way with Rex Ryan --"

" Definitely what surprised by taken back by how Bentley wrecked right in the camp of the wildcat when you look at this game. The -- at one mission and one mission only and that would get their rookie quarterback mark and it back -- two games went by. He wasn't playing well in -- actions not protecting the ball. -- of the game as he can have. Braylon Edwards -- with -- unbelievable. Look like he's been playing with Sanchez for ten years I look for that yet to continue that momentum to go back Edwards to open up adopted -- to open up the Op -- to -- with reckless abandon because I think -- need to go here. In their division wouldn't lose the division game last week they -- not board the come back and -- focused against the divisional team like bill."

" We know what I found interesting about the end game on Monday night when the Jets flew home. Rex Ryan did not lead. The headquarters at that Jets stating -- Giants stating. He stayed overnight at talent acting wise. With the things the -- Now maybe is an insomniac as well I don't know but when your team is up 413 yards. And your defense and gene -- that's a problem with your team but I agree with you Mark Sanchez needed a big game because the week before against moreland and four turnovers including the three interceptions so he rebounded -- Braylon Edwards a guy who couldn't hold onto the ball. For the last years in Cleveland look like -- weren't fit them all night long like Fred political up used to for the Raiders and it was phenomenal. Here's an interesting thing you know and analyzing in researching this game. You know the bills last week horrendous performance 63 home lost again to what Cleveland. Now that was a Brownstein and lost ten straight games. Now in that contest the bill can count thirteen penalties nine of them ball parks that's what happens when you start two rookie offensive lineman. Who is the Browns defense -- coordinator. Rob Ryan Rex Ryan's brother. Wonder if anything it's called taking the Rex is what you got -- did stop the bill which I don't think you have to have a big game plan not to -- no. Body watch is more ailment ride he's in about a 150 Patten becoming a coach and that's because he does nothing else but that room and watch film come November 1. When it out and come back at a metal and I think that -- You know again Dolphins you know the Jack supports. Gave the Dolphins mean that was right there is working for the taking into that final minute plane that final drive when the clean up the wildcat. But the week prior the Dolphins earned their first one of the season by hammering Buffalo 38 to ten and that -- and first start. So interesting you have a common opponent hearing how the two have a -- did. And bill did again a compliment being Miami. Now as for the bills they've scored just when he points and -- in the -- 1215. Straight up overall. So again. I would say that you have to go with the Jets here I agree with you even though it's a big light is an important in this -- me. It's important for the Jets as 10 that the Patriots early this season and you also have this interest in fact you know. On this Buffalo team three -- eleven against the spread the fourteen times they've taken on it means that pleased to report the like the Jets do. With eleven and after the straight losses. That tells me. Then when your starting two rookie -- lineman you cannot keep them nose tackle and keep that even. -- from penetrating your front line you're gonna have -- the Jets totally on the idea with the Jets are thinking well don't they always want. Get your heads out Marcum down sellout let's see where we we took split on the show 22 with our freebies. Now today we both like Philadelphia and the Jets playing the big points with both of them we split on Chicago and Atlanta. You thank. I think achingly taking the Da Bears to make Matt Ryan eat there at only way to beat them at your wrong but I'm going -- and I say by downing a point you say to -- up and point. We also -- on Seattle and Arizona. Because you're in love with Kurt Warner I'm not I'm a lot of -- with Kurt Warner again this I think he's manhandled. And you continue that. My money's on Matt Hasselbeck and again icing by -- point. You made by -- point. That'll do it for today I'll remember you get all your scores are on injuries weather reports out rituals at this time a year and more -- everything you need to be a winner tonight from us on line. -- march shows these and I breakdowns San Diego Denver. --"