" Superdome is also half of the story here and Tom -- new book it's entitled snake versus mongers it's available speed TV dot com keyword books and -- released. Just in time for next year's fortieth anniversary of one of racing's great rivalries and drag racing's perhaps biggest marketing coup ever. Go back to 1970s for almost make a huge star in top fuel dragster is lost one weekend to a lesser lights name Tom a few months. Who celebrated by claiming the nickname mongers. Haven't sold the idea of a huge drag racing rivalries so hot wheels Frazier hand if you -- snake and mom -- spot Orioles. When you were here. Here tonight to reflect on the forty yard year history. Moment HR and current events Don the snake himself dot -- walk about the shelf. For about there are they at the reunion at -- for most of right where Bakersfield California when doing your first race -- hundred years ago."

" Yell out things like hits it like yeah I was actually it was in 1962. Yeah. -- run and feel loved here. You don't that was in the days and and a jury would not running fuel so there's this was replays of the track. The rays to win and you know a lot of guys become a back every sense and now at this reunion thing it's it's bigger than ever and I just thought I'd join in this week and had a weekend off."

" Like -- truck are always heard and read that the hot wheels made the mongers program. Really move drag racing ended it into the main streaming in your opinion was it that big."

" Yeah I think so he knows really the first not a lot of voting sponsor. In this board in the the mom used to be honest with you begin and he had the idea to -- or McDowell. And I laughed adding and next thing you know he came back that anyone have a meeting -- us and meg Z over my shoulder here. That's what happened you know we ended up with -- two -- lookalike in we toured all around the country and before there was a lot of TV and things like that in. And now Mattel I think of all the things that. Both the Q and I've done in more things and I've done with the championships and so on I think I'm more known for the -- hot wheels than anything else that the."

" Good thing about the rivalry itself would you know was it was it a publicity stunt I mean -- record in the dragster look this up 236. Williams and several losses you didn't have her -- rivals that was snake versus monitors the real failure was a mostly by."

" It was more than their real thing if you wanna hear the truth we didn't need to do our books and he together Americans were visibly. Right now so. That's sister's starting -- But it looks good on -- a consultant and I -- like -- of that does it does start equipment. Well that's the true story it was tonight Doug did you fat slow but that's evident it to gas though you know."

" Let's slow let's get a fast forward to 2000 but most good visible driver or drag racing today has to be John force. Spent years get beat on a match races for the big start."

" Well I think. You know and sports a volley. They've always -- did at least two or three or four cars and the reason they did that -- Does that help one another win you know to win the championship is won it several times I mean it is no secret if you've got. Four cars out there and you -- try to help what are your team cars get in the show or whatever you do this it's a Whitted visited you know. Part of the game. Bob Baer our noses out why I'd say so I've been out I loved John you know it's an -- job then. And he's funny stuff to be let down they help one another over there and they got a Great --"

" These are not necessarily related -- the Irish are made I HR rate this week your announce its gonna eliminate -- all pro qualified. Cover shorter weekends got a repackage it show. TV shows like -- treating every huge following its all about getting the audience to connect with the action. I'm wondering how you think DNA jury goes in that regard and are there things you would like to see done. To get this board more attention to expand it's audience."

" Well yeah you know that's of that that's a tough call because this -- it's become so expensive right now I think that's the key thing. It's just so damn expensive to do. It takes millions and millions of dollars -- drag racing these days and as you well know our deal this ended -- we're looking for funding right now but. -- So probably the right thing among them the best thing that day long time is not good riddance bid down the track -- Charlotte over they have four lanes and they run Ford. Cars side by side on an exhibition down there that was well most exciting things easy on done. And Alex C all the tracks expands the more things like that but it tactical things like here Rachel's. Getting cars running more consistent. I don't know but you don't. What's his starter run and nitro methane in these cars it's. That's the tough nut Buddy Guy and I don't have the answer to it it's. Michael wants some -- ones that want to drink champagne it's it's hard go back to be here if you're you're now in doubt that. That Nigel meant that nitro methane is. Makes a lot of power it's hard to get that out of the -- it and you obviously."

" Addictive. Level of dialogue back -- has seen action as an underdog who don't are just. Tell me about the kid he's a he's a rookie made the countdown and number one the NH her championship. Battle we wanted researchers -- saw it gets my vote for rookie of the year how good do you think years."

" Well you not think his record speaks for itself but reaction times of the way he handled himself. He's at the top of the list to run these small cars and by the time he is ready to run a top fuel car he was an eighties. You know when I don't these cars they were I didn't know anybody does -- did experiment. The kid like Massey and John Lang and some of the young guys coming up and there there they're pretty damn do they get behind it. The controls and other."

" make you must talk about. Your team in the future of your team. The US smokeless you know great partner for years to -- to hold the bag of US -- right there won't be back next year. All of us who tell me UW were you war with with the team."

" Well first off by you know have Philip Morris about the company. And there is some decisions made not to do it again but I gotta tell -- have all the sponsors ever had and dealt with all of ours and those folks I gotta tell you they really took what scares me on the -- to try to put the deal together addicted keep us out there and Spencer and run run the way I wanna run wanna run on top and have a nice operation so. If I can't do that I'm not gonna come back but right now we're worked with a good sponsors and people were talking to. And we're not done yet we're not done that. We're getting we're getting closer."

" Well I'm good to maintain an optimistic outlook I was gonna ask you what you're gonna do it just doesn't work out. -- save that question I really don't assume that -- go to work out of organist in your car back out there -- through to next year. But any case it's a pleasure talking to you good luck with or does make -- mongers fortieth anniversary celebration starters over want to books out night. -- Appreciate it buddy thanks a lot."